We Dream Of
The Church
Podcast
Honest conversations about conflict, healing, and leadership in the church—so communities can grow healthier, not quieter.
Clarity
Listeners gain words for dynamics they’ve felt but couldn’t name—church conflict, emotional shutdown, power struggles, burnout, and unresolved hurt. When people can name what’s happening, shame decreases and discernment increases.
Action
Beyond insight, listeners learn how to engage conflict and leadership challenges with emotional intelligence—how to respond rather than react, set boundaries, lead conversations, and pursue healing without bypassing reality.
The Why
The Church We Dream Of is a podcast exploring the real challenges facing churches today—conflict, leadership tension, church hurt, burnout, and the growing need for emotional intelligence in faith communities. Hosted by Kia Gutiérrez, a trauma-informed therapist, church leader, and parent, the podcast also features regular guests who bring fresh perspective, lived experience, and deep passion for healthier churches.
Many churches are deeply committed to doing good work, yet struggle to navigate disagreement, change, and relational wounds in healthy ways.
Through honest conversations with pastors, church leaders, therapists, and people who love the church but have been impacted by conflict, this podcast creates space to name what’s often left unspoken. Episodes focus on understanding why conflict escalates in churches, how trauma and stress affect leadership and community dynamics, and what it looks like to pursue healing without minimizing harm or avoiding truth.
Rather than offering quick fixes or surface-level answers, The Church We Dream Of invites listeners to slow down, reflect, and grow in emotional awareness. The goal is not to make churches quieter or more compliant, but healthier—places where difficult conversations can happen with wisdom, clarity, and care.
This podcast is for church leaders, ministry teams, and church members who want to engage conflict thoughtfully, lead with emotional intelligence, and participate in building faith communities rooted in honesty, connection, and resilience.
You don’t have to choose between truth and unity.
The church doesn’t become healthier by avoiding hard conversations—it becomes healthier by learning how to stay present in them. This podcast is an invitation to listen, reflect, and lead differently, so conflict becomes a doorway to deeper connection rather than a reason for silence.